tape based camcorders

Looking for videotape based camcorders :) Ideally, i'd love something that takes full-size VHS for my own filming projects, but I would be just as happy with something video8/digital8/hi8/VHS-C/miniDV/etc, both so I can finally properly archive my old tapes, but also to shoot new cool footage :) Preferably working condition, but I'll take "untested" :) any included media is a bonus of course. eBay prices are a bit nuts, i'd like to stay below that and keep the hobby affordable, but you tell me! :) I might have some hardware for trade as well, though I'm in the process of sorting that out, so please feel free to ask me! ^^